I have loved these cars for ages, and with the last rally aus poking its head out, i did a bit of Youtube trawling and came up with a few choice vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYhiJeRPgdw
awesome vid with some great closeups with the engine bay up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpAs8Fb_WZY
awesome sounds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkLH56Jx6qI
this one is a bit of a tribute to Henri Toivenens crash, which was the last nail in the coffin for GroupB. the first half is ass boring but the second half shows crash footage that I had never seen before


unfamiliar with the Group B cars? look here
http://www.autozine.org/strange_car/..._60.htm#205T16


Group B homologation required something like 200 cars be built, (as opposed to 5000 for Group A) a tiny number, and most of the excess cars were sold to the public at a stupid loss, just to ensure the manufacturer could compete. most were half finished when they left the factory, simply to sell them




my personal fav has to be the Audi Quattro S1, ridiculous wings and upwards of 600hp. based on an actual street car, unlike most of the other groupb cars which were specially made for the rally.


the quattro sport road car & early rally model



was lucky enough to find a genuine Lancia Stratos HF sitting in the service carpark at rally aus this year, nearly came on the damn thing



another fav car was the pug 205, based on a lowly fwd 1.4L model, this had the engine mid mounted and kicked serious ass, huge ass wide body and heaps of grunt



check out the size of the flares




its my dream one day to find one of these homologation models, preferably one of the Audi QuattroSports


But i am pretty confident i would settle for any of them =)

for those of you that remember my last car, my little 323, i kind of wish i had held onto it, it was one of 30 Australian delivered Mazda 323 GTXs, homologation model for the 323 that one the very first rally Australian in 1988 and a fair few European victories



so anyway, there is jesters groupb & rally thread. discuss.

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love the TBE on the renault 3 picks up^

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i found a few of those pics for you matt :P

and your forgetting the citreon bx 4tc

http://home.planet.nl/~koper193/bx4tc_evo.html

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cant beat the old skool rally cars!

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there is a bunch of cool info on that page Andy, nice find

http://home.planet.nl/~koper193/groupb.html

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Truly amazing cars...Just watching them gives ya goosebumps about how FAST they are..

There is a great story about one of the group B (Audi Quattro??) cars doing tarmac testing at one of the european GP tracks. Based on its times in testing had it lined up at that years GP it would have qualified in the top 10!!!!

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heh, thats a a bit of Chinese whispers Blaise. I've read it on several sites, one mentioned they did a test on the F1 track itself with a lancia delta on dirt tires and would have been on the second row.

If you watch that first vid the driver being interviewed says at the start how they were 4 seconds off the pace of the F1 cars on gravel, but he only mentions that the gravel road was the same length as the F1 track, not driving on the track itself

But i have heard it enough times to think its true

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Might be some truth in that. I read it in a magazine, cant remember which one, but it was a feature on group B. Had some reasonable times to back it up... either way they were off the hook. Super charged and turbo charged Nuts!!! And all sorts of roumours about roll cages being used as reserviours for nitrous to help spool the whole show up.. (This I think is more urban myth...)

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went quote searching

wouldn't surprise me in the least. with unrestricted horsepower (600bhp in most cases) and a minimum weight of 960kg your going to be *flying* wether its on tarmac, gravel, or off the side of a cliff.


its also on wikipedia, so it must be true :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Toivonen

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