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Old 08-12-2014, 03:27 PM
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:48 PM
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Ouch, who tuned it?
Edit: won't name the tuner as I don't want the wrong impression given. I believe the tune was safe but by my altering the cat it caused the engine to excessively lean out.

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Edit: won't name the tuner as I don't want the wrong impression given. I believe the tune was safe but by my altering the cat it caused the engine to excessively lean out.

If you had a set of forged Pistons in would this still have happened or would it just move on the next weakest link in the chain. Bummer about your engine mate hope it works out not to bad..

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Old 08-12-2014, 07:02 PM
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If you had a set of forged Pistons in would this still have happened or would it just move on the next weakest link in the chain. Bummer about your engine mate hope it works out not to bad..

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Not qualified enough to say mate, they are factory forged of course but who's to say whether aftermarket pistons would have avoided this.

At the end of the day 'shit happens' and I made an assumption that backfired on me. Lesson learnt. I booked some time off work so am pulling the engine this week and taking it to Doug, and fingers crossed I'll have it back and running before Xmas.
And yes if ppl want to know the tuner they can see my bug thread but my main point is that I don't believe the piston failed purely as a result of the tune.

Moral of the story is if you make even a small change to your exhaust ie gutting cat or going high flow cat and you are running a tune... Go get a retune.

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Old 08-12-2014, 07:23 PM
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Not qualified enough to say mate, they are factory forged of course but who's to say whether aftermarket pistons would have avoided this.

At the end of the day 'shit happens' and I made an assumption that backfired on me. Lesson learnt. I booked some time off work so am pulling the engine this week and taking it to Doug, and fingers crossed I'll have it back and running before Xmas.
And yes if ppl want to know the tuner they can see my bug thread but my main point is that I don't believe the piston failed purely as a result of the tune.

Moral of the story is if you make even a small change to your exhaust ie gutting cat or going high flow cat and you are running a tune... Go get a retune.
When I replaced my failed butler down pipe due to collapsed cat, it leaned by 0.3 afr (11.5 to 11.8), got it retuned asap.

I think fatigue is the reason why most old sti has piston failure, any knock would make this procesa lot faster.

Maybe get a afr gauge while u wait for a rebuild? Good luck.

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Old 08-12-2014, 10:10 PM
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When I replaced my failed butler down pipe due to collapsed cat, it leaned by 0.3 afr (11.5 to 11.8), got it retuned asap.

I think fatigue is the reason why most old sti has piston failure, any knock would make this procesa lot faster.
Which wideband O2 set up are you running in your car??

Here's some pics of a 1999-2000 EJ207 factory forged piston - after 270K+ KM :






That motor was pinged, boost spiked to 29psi, belted on skid pans, flogged at Collie & taken to 8500rpm regularly.......Not a single piston 'fatigue' failure.... In fact it would not die!

These motors actually had real forged pistons.

If any model is going to suffer metal fatigue in it's pistons it will be the EJ255/Ej257 hyper crap chocolate pistons......

EJ207's just love 12.4:1 Afr's on boost haha!
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That motor was pinged, boost spiked to 29psi, belted on skid pans, flogged at Collie & taken to 8500rpm regularly.......Not a single piston 'fatigue' failure.... In fact it would not die!

These motors actually had real forged pistons.

If any model is going to suffer metal fatigue in it's pistons it will be the EJ255/Ej257 hyper crap chocolate pistons......

EJ207's just love 12.4:1 Afr's on boost haha!
i must be real unlucky then
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If you had a set of forged Pistons in would this still have happened or would it just move on the next weakest link in the chain. Bummer about your engine mate hope it works out not to bad..

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Edit: won't name the tuner as I don't want the wrong impression given. I believe the tune was safe but by my altering the cat it caused the engine to excessively lean out.
Might want to edit out your bug thread if you want to hide the tuner..
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Edit: won't name the tuner as I don't want the wrong impression given. I believe the tune was safe but by my altering the cat it caused the engine to excessively lean out.
What did you do to the cat?
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