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Old 14-05-2008, 07:58 PM
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you could possibly cop too much of the impact of the air bag, rather then being cushioned.
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I haven't had an airbag go off on me, but I've had my share of hard knocks with harnesses, but would you get enough forward movement to actually create that problem?
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I think that the airbag would barely reach your head. Though the thought of wearing a helmet and the airbag going off scares me. Though, airbags dont go off in many accidents anyway
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depends on how close you sit really, but the airbag is supposed compensate for the movment in your head after the impact .. the last thing you want is to cop the full opening force rather than the already opened 'aaah cushin'
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Personally if the roof is getting squashed enough to 'push you out of the way' you are stuffed anyway.
Not necessarily, I think if i had a harness on here, I'd have been fucked.

And there are worse examples out there.
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Would it be possible to get the mounts behind the rear seat in. Get it fitted then when I wanted to drive on the road just unclip the two side straps and take it through the seat and just leave it sitting on the back seat? That way win win really I think.


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Ultimately harnesses shouldn't be used without a cage, or at least a hoop, at least then you have a proper mounting position for the harness (there are pretty strict guidelines by CAMS on this) and if you were to roll you wouldn't be stuck in one spot as the roof comes folding in. I'm not even sure if CAMS would let you mount your belts so far back...It's been a while since I've had to consult one of manuals, but it seems stupid. The whole point of the harness shoulder straps are to be short, because the longer they are, the more stretch and give there is, so they are deemed useless. IMO you either do things properly and fully or you don't bother at all.
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most events are fine with the harness bolting to the floor behind the drivers seat or to the rear lower seatbelt mount. at the end of the day its not ideal but its deemed safer than just using the 3 point sash. I once had an argument with a scruitneer over my 5 year old harness being "out of date", but it being fine to use an 18 yearold 3 point.
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I once had an argument with a scruitneer over my 5 year old harness being "out of date", but it being fine to use an 18 yearold 3 point.
Had the same argument at the Plex, car was left with seats out and harness in after being at AHG on the weekend prior, scrutineers couldn't fully check it all out (wanted to check if the eyelets were welded in) and wouldn't let me in. So I uncliped the shoulder straps and said, ok can I just use my regular seat belt.
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Not necessarily, I think if i had a harness on here, I'd have been fucked.
And there are worse examples out there.
Again, I said you need to look at what you are doing. If there is a chance you can roll around like that, why didn't you have a cage/rollbar?

At AHG for instance, there is very little risk of airbags/rollover situation. The harness keeps me nicely in my seat, so I like it. At other events I would decide at the time if it would be suitable to have one on or use the stock belt.
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