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trainwrex · #21 10-07-2007, 09:01 AM

Wouldnt it be cheaper to get a 207 shortblock than rebuilding the engine??

3gs for a shortblock and 5gs for a rebuild??

Mister Two · #22 10-07-2007, 09:05 AM

3K for a short block doesnt include labour to install it. Including labour its going to be closer to $4.5K. But at least you'll have forged pistons and stronger rods.

BALISTC · #23 10-07-2007, 09:06 AM

3k and a bit, plus gaskets, oil pump and labour...not to mention a head service.

Starts adding up no matter what you do.

pmh · #24 10-07-2007, 09:27 AM

bottom line - find out what caused the problem first.

trainwrex · #25 10-07-2007, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister Two

3K for a short block doesnt include labour to install it. Including labour its going to be closer to $4.5K. But at least you'll have forged pistons and stronger rods.

Yes but u have to factor all that in when u rebuild ur engine, it still has to come out.. so it is cheaper and a better option imo than rebuilding ur stock engine..

If u want to service the heads, then u might as well buy a long block from JWS.. and sell ur heads and block may recoup 1gs from that..

Mister Two · #26 10-07-2007, 09:41 AM

Agreed. If JWS still has that STI long motor for $4K. Thats probably the best way to go about it. Everything you'll need and its cheaper to simply install a long motor than it is to rebuild a whole motor from scratch.

pmh · #27 10-07-2007, 09:53 AM

he'll have to get pre MY01 bugeye STi long motor
otherwise he'll have AVCS to worry about, unless he goes verso

Bakks · #28 10-07-2007, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BALISTC

Pete's got a good point, but it also depends what you want to do with your car.

If you want to go all out, keep the car and drop the cash on it. Its a lovely car and it might be worth going this path if thats what you want to do.

If not, fix it to standard specs, and keep going as you are...or sell it at a later date for something else.

I was in the same situation last year, except the difference was I'd done every bolt on performance mod except for the motor. The motor went pop, so it was a logical choice to spend the extra couple of k and do the 207 + heads and cams.

If my car was near standard, the choice would have been different for sure and I would have had to make a choice as to whether go all the way (spend the big bucks as Pete mentioned), or fix and sell.

Enginewise it has basically all the same mods you did, bar the upgraded turbo more or less, no biggie there. I reckon chuck the EJ207 short motor in, whack a bigger snail on and you've got a pretty quick car. Std clutch you aren't gonna break the driveline, the gearbox's aren't THAT weak anyways. The rest of the car is in good condition (yeah?), so it doesn't really make sense to put a 2nd hand motor in in my opinion.....

BALISTC · #29 10-07-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pmh

he'll have to get pre MY01 bugeye STi long motor
otherwise he'll have AVCS to worry about, unless he goes verso

Very easy to fit standard cam gears and a set of billet cams, or just run the AVCS cams without the solenoids wired up, and the cams setup as per manually adjustable cam gears.

WRXTASY · #30 10-07-2007, 11:18 AM

If your even remotely thinking about selling the car I would do the Ebay job or a JWS 99/00 STi engine on the cheap.
Straight bolt in job with more power, better heads and all. Then Verso. Keep and play for a while then sell.

If your keeping the car, like I did on MY99 WRX either:
Cheap Way: JWS or used MY02+ STi EJ207 long motor with AVCS disabled. JDM engine better. Verso.

Proper Way: Built EJ207 short motor, JDM V8 STi heads (ported + extras). AVCS wires connected. Worked VF34/35 then Link G3/Autronic/Motec.
You really need to upgrade the gearbox then to at least a MY02+ WRX with the 4.444 rear diff. RA box better if still keeping the 5 spd to keep costs reasonable.

If you're spending the money on an EJ207 bottom end, you really want to do it justice and get value out of the expense by putting proper heads on the thing.

J