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Old 19-09-2009, 02:14 PM
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Sounds like a sticky wastegate actuator personally. Sounds like it gets to 16 and doesnt really keep opening, but stay put at 16psi, then eventually open.
Cheers, had a similar problem with it sticking a while back. Any diy stuff to test this? Or is it a mechanic's job?
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Old 19-09-2009, 02:25 PM
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thread title reminds me of compound turbos.


regarding the power surging on and off and on, yeah- try a replacement AFM and go from there, sounds very unlikley to be a mechanical issue.
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haha awesome. afm is <6 months old
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Old 19-09-2009, 02:27 PM
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it only takes a second to contaminate an AFM though, worth a shot- otherwise, try your o2 sensor.
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Old 19-09-2009, 02:46 PM
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here's some useful sensor faults/symptoms that can help narrow down an issue

O2 SENSOR FAULTY
SYMPTOM: Rough idle usually cold (Closed loop) and jerky (surging)cruising acceleration.
WHY: Because the ECU isnt getting a proper reading anymore and the rough idle and surging is because the ecu is inlimp mode and flooding the car with extra fuel to protect it. Surging problems 9 out of 10 times are always fuel related.
sometimes faulty 02 sensor does not throw a CEL code. Well not in the begining anyway.


KNOCK SENSOR FAULTY
SYMPTOM: Hard to notice but not the smoothest acceleration. Biggest symptom is on the highway when you accelerate under load like 4th or 5th gear the car jerks and surges. Anything below it drives normal.
WHY: Because the knock sensor is giving the wrong signal or no signal so therefore once again ECU runs in SAFE mode and protects the car by retarding timing and running safe fuel maps under full load driving conditions.



AFM SENSOR FAULTY
Symptom:Rough idle all the time. Rough stuttering acceleration aka misfiring. Poor acceleration through through the entire rev range. Pinging because its running lean and this is the biggest cause of engine failure due to faulty AFM.
WHY:The ECU has a close relationship with the AFM like a mother and son from Tasmania kinda relationship. They dont question each others actions. The AFM obviously gives the ECU readings. When the AFM fails the ecu is still assuming its giving correct readings while the car is accelerating. Only if the car starts to stall or really bad rough idle the ECU then tries to compensate. Thats why you can test when you have a faulty AFM. Rough idle and disconnect the AFM. If it still runs then its AFM because the ecu has compensated for dodge idle AFM readings. If it does stall when you disconnect AFM then chances it isnt AFM.
Best way is to always test.


Faulty TPS
SYMPTOM: Rough accelaration through the range. Or a particular rev range or throttle range displays funny behaviour because there is a dead or worn spot on the TPS.
WHY: Same thing ECU gets incorrect voltage readings from the TPS. ECU doesnt see voltage at all sometimes and one again usually runs into safe mode and runs extra rich for protection. Hmm sounds like while the car is starting up you hit the F8 key right? lol
If you have a Multimetre or AVCR hooked up you can read the TPS. On closed throttle it should read around .44volts or so. On WOT it should read 3.5 volts I believe.
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Old 19-09-2009, 03:53 PM
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thanks colonel. nothing here really matches up but i'll save it for possible future use.

anyways - i made sure all the hoses past the afm were tight and anything connected to the bov. the only one i would have considered loose is this one. it isn't even clamped.


what's this tube for?

took it for a drive and what do you know. pretty much back to normal. boost drops off a bit from 16 to about 10 in 1st and 2nd gear but holds a steady 16 through 3rd and 4th (didn't try 5th). i think the boost drops in 1st and 2nd might have always happened anyway, but i could be wrong.

i forgot to mention before but since the problem started fuel economy went out the window (300ks/tank).

i'll keep an eye on it for a few weeks to see what happens.

thanks for the tips.
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thats the vacuum hose that pulls the bov piston when you come off boost. They don't always have a clamp, wouldnt hurt to chuck one on though.
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Hmmmm if you are getting crappy economy, id say its overfueling then. Definatley check all hoses for sure. Make sure the bov is clamped properly aswel.
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Thanks. I think it's time for a real mechanic. Checked all hoses were clamped but it still spins up twice under 3/4 throttle. Full throttle it seems to boost consistently.
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Whats is max psi on stock 00 ecu before it cuts? Could be another possibility??
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