was the m800 pnp reading avcs back in early 2004? would of been just on the cusp of it as it usually takes within 12-18 months for all the bugs to be ironed out. motec would of had a few version 7 sti's in various levels of r&d with its international dealers/buyers until the aus spec 02 came out, give or take that transition period and more demand....would of been damn close.

on a side note, its going to be interesting seeing how those two mms 08sti's go like next week. all the best parts money can buy, plus the meticolous attention to detail in piecing it all together. easy 200+ grand build on each car, lot of money to put on the line, its a shame they wont stay new for very long!

for some reason they bin one (god forbid) could be the time for some seagull action raping all those parts, say hello to mr s202!

i love how one part of the article says it is standard then another says it was built by MSR and had some cam work. and why was it put together only to strip it?

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Double the money does not mean double the fun but it does mean that you know if you drive the wheels off the thing you have a chance of winning.

I know that I could drive my car in its current tune at 12 tenths and unless it rains there is absolutely no way I can win Targa West. This is also assuming that Les Walkden konws nothing about the Evo 7 that a certain WA driver is in that he originally built.

My point is you are not going to land a s202 in WA for $14k and the cost to set it up with motec / reigers etc is going to cost the same whether it is a brand new my08 or a s202.

If I was going to build a new race car tommorow (bear in mind I have a fully equipped workshop and would do everthing myself except for physically welding the cage in. I would cut / notch and tach but get a registered welder to actually weld it) I would not get a dollar back out of $125k.

Works out like this.

Base car: Either Brand new Evo x rs or jap spec STI: $45k
Suspension: Reigers or nothing: $20k
Brakes: S/hand AP's or similar. (bear in mind you are not allowed to run a pedal box. Also includes hydraulic handbrake $15k
Cage: Chrome moly including painting $10k
Wheels / tyres: original diameter but lighter weight $5k
In Car: Seats / harnesses / rally computer / fire bomb etc $8k
Computer: Motec box plus diff controller inc tuning $8k
interior misc: re cover dash / tinting / vo waterspray $5k
other: stamp duty / rego etc $4k
exhuast: new exhaust to save weight and less restrictive $2K
stuff ive forgotten: ?? $5k

This car would be competitive outright on any tarmac rally on the east coast. It would not beat porsches / gtr's in targa west because they simply have too much power out of 90' corners and you cant carry enough corner speed with you.....unless it rained.

The point I am trying to make is that the cost of the car pales into insignifigance so dont buy one and do it yourself but if you insist on doing it buy the latest model thing you can get. It's nice to have the exclusivity of something like a 202 but you are going to hack stuff out of it. Probably bin it at some stage and it will never go back to what it was like. Also because it was made in such low numbers the car would never have been homologated. That means you have to run the weight as it appears in the brochure and not the homologated weight. Without doing the research there might not be any difference but you would be better off with a normal spec C sti instead of an s202.

At the other end of the spectrum you could ring up heaphy at ralliart and buy a brand new evo 9 rs or evo x rs for $40 - $45k. Brand new car that is b-rego. With some tyres / exhaust / tune ($5k) the car would be competitive at club level motorsport and be super reliable. If you get bored there would be heaps of people that would buy the car and turn it into a rally car(either dirt or tarmac). If you dont get bored and love it you could start ticking the boxes from above. Start with suspension then maybe the cage etc.

Brendon

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Sorry but I can't get over a roll cage costs $10k now days (geez I sound old).

Admittedly mine is a bolt in but my ali cage cost me under $1k 15 years ago. As the car is still log booked I can still use it and save a bucketload of weight and is safe enough for circuit racing in historics.

I agree completely and I think it could almost be a defining moment. Absolutely no doubt that evo 7 - 9 > sti my 02 - 07. Last year they sold 37 evo 9 rs and 35 went to tarmac duty. Now that the Evo x has got fat and you are not allowed to run elf 106 (which benefitted the evo x more than the my07 sti) the sti has an opportunity like never before to regain some ground.

If herridge or iddles bin it all the gucci parts will just get put into the a new one. I think its fair to say that only one of the mms cars will be competitive outright.

Cheers

Brendon

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totally agree, its going to cost the same setting it up whether its a brand new car or something older, yet similar. but with all respect i think this gentleman is just starting out so a 125-200$ racecar might be a bitter pill to swallow whereas a <30$ prebuilt racecar is something he can quite comfortable learn in without the fear of costing more than a riviera boat! why aren't you doing the hard sell on your car brendon! (even blind freddy could see im trying to help ya!)

as for rollcages, if you got someone like steve maitland to build you a rollcage that has all the bells and whistles (bear in mind the car is already stripped out) you wouldn't get much change out of 9999$ so by the time its painted and all the trimmings go back in/modified (unless you go carbon so add +++$) its another 5 grand. of course the DIY approach favours those with skills and time, the likes of me have neither so we to rely on others.

http://www.my105.com.au/classified.asp?id=11000

go brendan go!

what ever happened to ross lockharts old car? is still in perth? i know i rave on about it, but that was a nice car, that rollcage spins me out everytime. okay, even i admit, maybe change the colour, but respect it as its a nicely put together car!

saw ross's car at MC mid last year i think it was, he was doing some testing in it

he'd gotten the weight of it down to 960kg, and that was inc driver from memory

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it got sold & shipped to Europe in Oct 08 - I think he dropped the price to below $40k in the end.

Edit - http://www.mythical.com.au/ross-rex/index.html

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MY09 Evo X - 1.6bar@3500rpm - got lag?
Barbagallo - 56.03 (S); 1:08.09 (L)
Collie - 50.77
Possibly the most under-driven Evo X in the world??

i love the car, but this a stretch....

"it is no doubt the best prepared high performance SUBARU, in W.A...."

shame it went os, would of been good to have remained in perth