the only other thing to consider is repair and servicing costs.

mrs said she still like the forrester xt with all the satnav and dvd etc.
so damn hard to decide.

Yes and No.

GM use to own Saab and also had a 10% stake in Fuji who own Subaru, hence the colabaration on 1-2 models that were epic failures in the US. A wrx with a Saab front end and 5k dearer was never going to work.

GM have since sold their stake in Subaru which has now been picked up by Toyota, so there is no direct relation anymore.

To answer the 2nd part Saab have developed their own AWD system based on Haldex with an electric/hydraulic centre diff etc etc. I dont believe they got much from Subaru.

Alfas can mount up in repair costs, no matter what people say about them, electrics are still a worry in them.

Would honestly go BMW, Mercedes or Audi, new or 2nd hand.

Then perhaps Saab/Volvo. S60R are a good drive.

Alternatively get something j-spec vip like a Cima - http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/index.php?ID=6692

And sink the balance 30g or whatever into the house or another house

Sorry about small pic...

But this is the new TRD Hilux Supercharged, figures are 225kw at 453NM of torque. Brand new and under your budget

4000SL $64,990 RRP



OR

The mother of all 4x4s... Hummer Luxury 3.7 H3 again under your $65K mark, safety for the family and a get out of my way kinda ride ...PIMPIN

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what a waste of 65k. I wouldnt touch the FWD shitter TRD Aurion either. Torque Steer FTL.

Fair enough each to there own checkout the addition to that post I think it might change your mind about this one but I could be wrong

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LOL, wouldnt mind a hummer, would get over the novelty in a few months though, and you may as well buy shares in an oil company

Get a BMW 330 Tim! or by then should be able to pick up nice E46 M3 im thinking about it

Safety? How is a vehicle too heavy to stop or avoid anything that is around 10x more likely to be in a crash, safe? Your on a wrx forum you should know better than to spread the stupid idea that big shitty tanks like this are safe.

[QUOTE=werticusness]Safety? How is a vehicle too heavy to stop or avoid anything that is around 10x more likely to be in a crash, safe? Your on a wrx forum you should know better than to spread the stupid idea that big shitty tanks like this are safe.

Gee take a pill mate... what vehicle is safe ?? they are all tin cans on wheels, regardless of how big or how many airbags they may have.

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