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Old 21-02-2010, 10:48 PM
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Default Power Fc vs Motec / Autronic

I have a GC8 wagon running a Power FC.

My engine died and Tony Flood Mechanical built me a EJ207 motor which is running like a dream.

As I want more power out of it he has recommended me to upgrade to a Motec / Autronic/ Haltech ecu as they offer more management over the power fc.

My question is can some of you guys in the know (Im not really really clued on the technical aspects of cars let alone subarus and their ecu's) offer feedback positive or negative as I know some people with peformance cars stating that Power Fc's are good enough.

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Old 21-02-2010, 10:56 PM
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rossco is your man, its like he invented the thing, thats how informed he is on them
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The Power FC will do everything you want for a street car.
You Don't need:
1. Anti-lag
2. Rotational idle

The only disadvantage of the power fc is that you must run an afm of some description (nissan Z32 is the most reliable to use).

The power fc retains all of the oem ecu functions (a/c idle up, thermo fan control, O2 feedback, utilizes factory boost control system etc) without requiring additional license costs.

There are no hard-set limits in terms of power, kilowatts, horsepower or turbo size etc its purely as good as your tuner. So if you have a good tuner then there is no logical/physical boundary etc.
The Apexi 1200HP drag car uses a PowerFC for its main ECU (no surprise).

It has plenty of map resolution (20 x 20 = 400 map cells on both Fuel & igntion).

Please read the power Fc faq for all the finer details:
Power FC Faq

Thanks Ajayjay, but Sean @All Star is the real PowerFC guru.
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ross whats the price for a power fc fully fitted and everything??
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Old 21-02-2010, 11:23 PM
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Pick one up for $1-1.2 K with a hand controller.

Install is plug and play (+ swapping the cam & crank sensor inputs on non-sti wrx's).

Drive on base map to All Star for a tune ($4-600 depending on time it's on the dyno)

Budget for around $1800 all up.

Secondhand PFC's can be had for under $800 if you're prepared to look / Wait.
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well if people sell them 2nd hand, could any thing can possible be at fault with them?
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Ask to see it running in the car before purchasing to be sure.

They're pretty hard to kill.
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My car is running 250kw on a PowerFC, runs great. Sean's car was running somewhere north of 400HP on PowerFC but I think he did make some reasonable gains when he moved to a Motec (unverified).

I love my PFC and especially the FC Commander but the PFC won't retard timing like the stock ECU so you do have to watch carefully for any knock warnings (have blown 2 motors - cracked ringlands - with PFC )
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