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Old 08-11-2010, 04:03 PM
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In my view some of the most influential and best cars ever made

VW Beetle 1938 - 2003 (old shape) still recognisable after 65yrs of production.

Mini Minor 1959 - current, Go cart like handling 50yrs ago.

E Type Jaguar 1961 - 1975 150 mph Sex on wheels.

Lamborghini Muira 1967 - first mid engined super car & possibly the most beautiful car ever made.

Jag XJ6 1968 - 1992 - still to this day one of the most comfortable cars ever made
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Old 08-11-2010, 04:18 PM
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You do of course realize that the above car was never a "touring car" as such, it was a purpose built "race car" built for the Japanese GT series! It should have never been in the Australian touring car championship against Group A touring cars!

It was like turning up to the Evo vs WRX day in aa F1 car!

P.S i am not a hater but as time has gone by people sprout all kinds of shit about how they banned the GTR just cos it won, when the simple fact remains that it should never have been there in the first place!
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Old 08-11-2010, 04:41 PM
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Toyota Landcruiser / Hilux would have to be in there as one of the best 4x4 production vehicles of all time. They are truly, and have been proven to be unbreakable. They do set the benchmark...

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they can be broken, i work underground in a gold mine and we drive landcruisers, they can withstand a beating but everything breaks eventually, hence why there are mechanics on site 24/7
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Old 08-11-2010, 04:44 PM
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Believe it or not i am not kidding, it is not widely known but it is the gospel truth!

I actually raced Group A touring cars albeit in historics but they Had to be the actuall cars, i had one of Larry Perkins cars )see my build thread you will find a pic)

Group A was a world wide formula but they only really raced the GTR here in Aus! they were never in the European series or the BTCC!

And yes it did meet the homologation of 500 road cars but that was really a technicallity!
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Old 08-11-2010, 04:57 PM
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Ahh.. what about the Japanese Grand Touring series?

They were in abundant numbers there.. funnily enough being Japanese and all.

To be eligable to race in group a they had to build 500 road going versions.. which is the first 500 they built. They built substantially more than that too.

Nissan Japan choose to give Gibson motorsport access to the GTR as they had been pretty impressive running the HR31's before it.

It didnt matter that it didnt run in Europe - FISA was in charge of the group a regs and they allowed it to race.. and FISA funnily enough was European.
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Ahh.. what about the Japanese Grand Touring series?.
You are right, thats why I mentioned it on the last page!

But it is very interesting to actually read how the GTR came into existance and why it became 4wd (because of the ten inch tyre rule for under 4000cc) and then why they increased the capacity from 2350cc to 2600cc (to run 11 inch tyres)

I am not slating that the GTR was quite a THING, but it was david versus goliath back then!

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It didnt matter that it didnt run in Europe - FISA was in charge of the group a regs and they allowed it to race.. and FISA funnily enough was European.
I may be wrong but i think you will find CAMS allowed it to run not FISA, otherwise the Europeans would have been all over it, why would they not run the greatest touring car (or sport sedan) ever if they could have?

I could talk about Group C and Group A touring cars all day, it's a shame they canned them and also a shame they canned Group A rally cars! but i can understand Group B being killed off!
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Porsche 911
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1. Aston Martin One-77
2. Lamborghini Muira
3. Bugatti Type 41
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Old 08-11-2010, 06:30 PM
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You are right, thats why I mentioned it on the last page!

But it is very interesting to actually read how the GTR came into existance and why it became 4wd (because of the ten inch tyre rule for under 4000cc) and then why they increased the capacity from 2350cc to 2600cc (to run 11 inch tyres)

I am not slating that the GTR was quite a THING, but it was david versus goliath back then!



I may be wrong but i think you will find CAMS allowed it to run not FISA, otherwise the Europeans would have been all over it, why would they not run the greatest touring car (or sport sedan) ever if they could have?

I could talk about Group C and Group A touring cars all day, it's a shame they canned them and also a shame they canned Group A rally cars! but i can understand Group B being killed off!
Nope - FISA formulated the group a rules, not cams - it was designed and built to those rules. Cams simply ran the series in Australia - but the goal was to make it so you could pack up your car in one country, travel to any other group a series in the world, and run.

Much like the Europeans who bought their Cossies down under for Bathurst.. even if they did cheat.

The reason none of the European teams ran the car was because they were too busy with the Sierra's and E30 M3's - plus Nissan Japan dictated who they wanted to run the cars.

They had numerous teams in Japan, then Gibson motorsport and the private GTR that run here also.
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That's not a E55 btw. It's a SL65
Sorry I am not perfect, my mistake I was looking for an E55 and came across this one, put the picture in place but didn't modify the text.
my humble apologies

still looks good though
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