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Old 10-11-2007, 03:17 PM
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just practice mate.... i did that so many times.... however try it in 50 streets :P
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:02 PM
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I guess this question can be answered by "Do whatever you feel comfortable with"

If you strip it back to the basics your idea goal is to not unbalance the car on the downshift. If you think that by "blipping" the throttle just before you let the clutch out works for you, keep doing it.

I personally do not do it. I brake in a straight line keeping it in that gear until the very last moment. JUST before I start to lift pressure off the brake pedal (just before) I will select the gear that I need for the corner. This way my road speed is at its lowest and if I make a little boo boo it should not have too much affect on the cars balance.

My method may not work for everyone, I am in a street car with synchros, standard box and twin plate clutch.
For those who doubt Chris's thoughts, the second he mentioned this technique to me I picked up .7 of second on short track wanneroo. Car was twitchy under brakes trying to find gears, but this worked well.
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:08 PM
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I cant heel and toe. My knee hits the steering wheel. Damn being tall! But I can still rev match
How wides your foot?

I ask because i noticed the way Jan does his "heel-toe" shifts when we were doing runs in Albany. Rather than using his heel and toe, he just uses either side of his foot. ie he just rolls his ankle over to the right to stab the throttle while keeping the left side of his foot on the brake. It'd have a lot to do with the size of your foot and pedal placement, but worth a try.

Of course he may be able to explain this a little better himself, but its just what i noticed from the passenger seat. Interesting.
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:28 PM
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How wides your foot?

I ask because i noticed the way Jan does his "heel-toe" shifts when we were doing runs in Albany. Rather than using his heel and toe, he just uses either side of his foot. ie he just rolls his ankle over to the right to stab the throttle while keeping the left side of his foot on the brake. It'd have a lot to do with the size of your foot and pedal placement, but worth a try.

Of course he may be able to explain this a little better himself, but its just what i noticed from the passenger seat. Interesting.

I'm 6'5" and have a size 14 foot... this technique works for me
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Will try that tonight on way home... Size 16 and steel cap workboots FTL!
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:43 PM
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i use my wide feet to heel toe.

heel toe and rev match day in day out.
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:15 PM
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hmm. im a size 12. I'll give it a shot.
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How wides your foot?

I ask because i noticed the way Jan does his "heel-toe" shifts when we were doing runs in Albany. Rather than using his heel and toe, he just uses either side of his foot. ie he just rolls his ankle over to the right to stab the throttle while keeping the left side of his foot on the brake. It'd have a lot to do with the size of your foot and pedal placement, but worth a try.

Of course he may be able to explain this a little better himself, but its just what i noticed from the passenger seat. Interesting.
I changed to this style when I had my AP's. I use to turn my foot but now roll it due to the APs having less pedal travel. I now much prefer this method on all cars I drive.

I double clutch in general driving sometimes just to keep it smooth.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:33 AM
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Who uses a clutch?
I was waiting for someone to say that

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i use my wide feet to heel toe.

heel toe and rev match day in day out.
Yeah, I have size 11 and 12 shoes and I prefer having a half foot on accel and half on brake rather than the literal heel and toe.

Only good thing about steel caps is they make it easier!
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Once you establish decent control/feel of the brake pedal with half the sole of you foot on the RHS of the pedal its fairly easy to then roll over and blip the throttle. Be persistant and you will master it quite easily, but it works flawlessly when on the track flat out under heavy brakes.
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