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Old 11-11-2007, 12:50 AM
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How wides your foot?

I ask because i noticed the way Jan does his "heel-toe" shifts when we were doing runs in Albany. Rather than using his heel and toe, he just uses either side of his foot. ie he just rolls his ankle over to the right to stab the throttle while keeping the left side of his foot on the brake. It'd have a lot to do with the size of your foot and pedal placement, but worth a try.

Of course he may be able to explain this a little better himself, but its just what i noticed from the passenger seat. Interesting.
Heh, no particular reason I do it that way - just how I started doing it when I taught myself and what felt comfortable at the time I spose.

Watch some Best Motoring videos with their "foot cam", thats what inspired me to learn.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:23 AM
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How wides your foot?

I ask because i noticed the way Jan does his "heel-toe" shifts when we were doing runs in Albany. Rather than using his heel and toe, he just uses either side of his foot. ie he just rolls his ankle over to the right to stab the throttle while keeping the left side of his foot on the brake. It'd have a lot to do with the size of your foot and pedal placement, but worth a try.

Of course he may be able to explain this a little better himself, but its just what i noticed from the passenger seat. Interesting.
Thats how I do it too. Much easier than using your heel and your toe.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:30 AM
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Thats how I do it too. Much easier than using your heel and your toe.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:06 AM
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Yep same here, but its different for different cars.

I can't remember what car it was (just a normal one) i had to use my heel, in the evo its just my little toe.

It's faster with the toe i find. Toe n toe technique
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Heel and toeing is only difficult for the first 1000 times. People do it because it unsettles a car LESS and is mechanically sympathetic.

Synchros do not match revs, they only allow poor driver's to change gears

Start practicing on the way to and from work, say 30 shifts a day and you will have it mastered in less than 7 weeks. Looks like another case of HTFU
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Old 15-11-2007, 11:13 PM
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Heel and toeing is only difficult for the first 1000 times. People do it because it unsettles a car LESS and is mechanically sympathetic.

Synchros do not match revs, they only allow poor driver's to change gears

Start practicing on the way to and from work, say 30 shifts a day and you will have it mastered in less than 7 weeks. Looks like another case of HTFU
Im starting to get the hang of it after only a couple of weeks and im doing it in a Rav4, so it cant be that hard
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Old 15-11-2007, 11:28 PM
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I rev match in every car I drive, its now just become a habit. I also heel toe a fair bit (especially in my Starlet!) as for true double clutching, it really is a waste of time in our cars.

As for Chris260's advice, I wouldn't be so fast to dismiss it offhand, there's a reason he's doing 55's when everyone else is doing 58's




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Heel toe shifts are too dangerous for road use. Track use ok, I rev match on the street but don't heel toe
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Heel toe shifts are too dangerous for road use. Track use ok, I rev match on the street but don't heel toe
How so?
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Old 17-11-2007, 06:10 PM
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How so?
Well unless you're a pro...you can quite easily give either too much brake or too much acceleration. Using it in traffc is pretty silly if you ask me!
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