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Old 10-11-2007, 10:16 AM
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agree but that dosnt change the fact the car is not balanced the rest of the time.
not unless your a good driver :P
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totally agree. Its slower...
its not slower if you can do it properly.....also you need to rev it when the clutch is out otherwise its not doign anything.
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really, the engine should not be used to slow the car...

thats what brakes are for. If you want to get technical..
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but you can slow it quicker
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Riggs, I guess you are talking about a racing situation, that means that there will be many variables to consider, your braking will depend on what the car in front of you is doing and what line you choose for that corner.

The majority of the people that will be reading this will not be racers, just guys and gals that hit the track now and then. Mainly time attack driving.

My method works for me at Wanneroo long or short track and Collie. It may not work for everyone's car as gear ratios are different and of course if the driver is not happy with that style it will never work.

I may be wrong but this is the advice I would give a beginner that is just starting at the track before I try to try to teach them the heel and toe method.
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not unless your a good driver :P
You will find a GOOD driver will not do it that way
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[QUOTE=Riggs]You will find a GOOD driver will not do it that way [/Q

lol...nice
ever watched those WRC guys....thats some good driving.
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its not slower if you can do it properly.....also you need to rev it when the clutch is out otherwise its not doign anything.
so your saying you can have the clutch out, put it in, shift to neutral, let the clutch out, blip the throttle, put clutch in, shift to the lower gear and let the clutch out quicker than just putting the clutch in, shift to lower gear, let clutch out?

Assuming its the same driver with the same skills of course...

I cant see it. ... and do not understand why it would be necessary in cars with such low engine/flywheel inertia...

but if you want to do it then thats fine...I do it only to go back into first when moving quickish...You can feel in the gearstick when its needed and when it isn't.
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but you can slow it quicker

I guess thats why racing cars (F1, indy, WRC, V8 Supercars) do it to slow down and why the new EVO's and GTR's have trannys set up for engine braking?
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