^^ Great post

I look at the stupid things I did when I was young. I bought a brand new MY00 WRX when I was 18 after destroying my na lancer. I never crashed my WRX but totally taught the lancer a lesson.

It is a very difficult subject because as wayne said give some young bloke some lessons and they think they are bullet proof. Look at your mates that have been to AHG to drive the V8 supercars and think that a) the cars are fast and b) they can drive.

There are other problems with which cars can be used. I.e. if you look at Victoria you cant have a daihatsu copen (all 3 cyl turbocharged fury) but you are allowed to have an NA lotus exige. Now which one is going to go faster.

Also the same problems are going to exist as bikes. i.e. people driving out of license. I doubt there are figures out there but how many people that kill themselves are out in dads car anyways?

my 2c

Brendon

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This is another point which i didn't make in my previous post.

When i first learn't to drive, and for 12 months after i first got my license i drove an 88 Astra, old and run down. I didn't give a shit what happened to it as it was already full of dents with paint scraped from the previous owners.

Whilst still on my P plates i bought a wrx, cost me a fair amount of cash. Because of that i was extremely careful when i drove it and rarely ever did i do anything stupid in it.

My point is, crappy cars are essentially worthless. If you blow up the engine or break the gearbox who cares. Scrap it and buy another $1000 car.

Spend 20-40k on a performance car and your lively to take care of the thing and not thrash it to within an inch of its life!

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If you drive a car with a top speed of 120kph, you will never have a 200kph crash.
If your car takes 18 seconds for the 1/4, you will never hit lethal speeds on suburban roads.

Smaller, lighter, low powered cars are why I (and most of my friends) survived our teenaged years with limited driver training. If you have a high powered car, you will be tempted to try it out one night egged on by your mates.

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when i had first got my licence i had a old skool volvo...242gt, 2 doors, lumpy cam, zorst. i had it painted and drove my dads vy ss around for a few days to and from school...but on the 3rd day i put it into a tree and did $15,000 damage to it. i thought i could drive anything. that taught me a big lesson on driving to my ability which i believe young people know nothing about.
attitude is the reason why young people are over-represented in crash statistics (along with limited experience). if there is anything that can improve this statistic then the wa government should look at doing it - increasing the number of hours learner drivers must log is not the answer as they seem to believe - its still supervised driving and how many people are going to act like a knob with their folks in the car??? not many!!
for me, resiticting the power limits of a car is going to go a long way to decreasing the road toll with specific regard to 18-24 yr olds, and it should be coupled to purchasing a car that is a certain number of years old (young) so that they have a greater number of safety features or able to simple protect its occupents better. as has been said, if it takes a car longer to get up to a dangerous speed (over the speed limit or too fast for the conditions) people are not going to be as likely to try and drive it in that manner. i now this may open up the flood gates, but why is it that the government are not able to see this?
someone asked how they would police this sort of plan of action...it works in NSW, however not sure how...but it works, p platers seem not to try and dodge the system for obvious consequences, which need to be harsh in order to deter people from driving a car in which they are not qualified to.
sorry for the long winded post

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Being in the same boat as some of the members on here, I am an 18yr old P Plater who has a wrx. First car was a mazda 323 sh*t box but it still would get up to speed! Advanced driver training would be the best idea even if they were driving sh*t box... Learning how to get out of a spin in the wet would save a lot more lives than banning high powered vehicles imo.

I tend to agree that many inexperienced drivers just wouldnt know what to do if they got into a dangerous situation eg lost traction/control. If driver training on a wet skidpan etc, and training in emergency braking etc was included in learners, I think that fatalities would be reduced.

If only there was a way to get inexperienced drivers to experience crashes without killing themselves or anyone else...

High performance cars are becoming more obtainable these days. Whether it's because they're becoming cheaper or people's parents are buying them cars, the combination of high performance cars with inexperience increases the likelihood of accidents.

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look at nz road statistics. lots of kids die each year due to cheap performance.

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