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Old 23-11-2005, 02:57 PM
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yes i am against the death penalty full stop.
Good job you're not making the choice for them then eh?

If you go to singapore, you're going to be subject to their cultural requirements. If they come here, they'll be subject to ours. I don't recall the last time Singapore tried to tell us how to run our legal system, do you?

Have you considered how much it costs to imprison somebody for life? The costs of maintaining them, feeding, clothing, medical treatment, when someone isn't going to see the sunny side of their cell for the rest of their natural life, what's the point in keeping them around? They're not contributing to a working society in any way, shape or form, put two in the back of the head.
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Old 23-11-2005, 02:58 PM
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two words. NATURAL SELECTION. He might not deserve it, it might not be humane... but he knew what he was getting into
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Old 23-11-2005, 03:02 PM
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I see druggies and the misery that drugs bring at my work almost everyday. No sympathy from me...

The Aust govt. knows they can't dissuade the Singaporean govt. but they have to try anyways or the media and public will have it all over them. It's good publicity for the govt to be seen as doing their best even if it is futile.
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quote " Human rights are a high priority for the Government. Civil and political rights are ranked equally with economic, social and cultural rights " its good to take the moral high ground, but in reality no government is going to cut off its nose to spite its face and ban trade or any other business dealing with singapore, i dont think so....singapore in my limited opinion take the view that is important to look after the collective to maintain the stability and protection of the people, rather than looking after the needs of a very small minority that make illegal monies and at the same time spread disease and death amongst our community.. of which it may be our love 1s or friend on the end of a needle, plus theres the social, medical costs of drug addicts that is bourne by the community....all because of these drug pushers greed and little value of other humans lives...but does he desrves to die, who iam i to judge singapore or other countries that use the death penalty as tool as weapon to fight crime.. many states in the US use the death penalty and impose harder life sentences of mutiply life times sentences.. so whos right...it would be good if there was no crime, but man being man cant help himself, so some countries adopt penlties for the protection of their citizens... and god help idiots that abuse those laws of that country......amen...
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Old 23-11-2005, 03:15 PM
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I think it's meant to be a deterrent as well as a punishment. Capital punishment sends out very strong warnings to would-be offenders, and what better cure than prevention?

In any case, whether by bullet or by the gallows, death is supposed to be instantaneous. The rope length is calculated according to the person's body weight.
Once spoke to a fellow BMW car club member back in Singapore who was a prison officer at rehab centre and he knew a couple of officers who does the execution. Irrelevant but if anyone wants to know the execution process, here goes...

All prisoners awaiting execution will be placed in cells away from the others. These prisoners will be given typical prison food and on regular occassion will be given an excellent hearty meal in order to lead them into thinking their execution is moments after the meal.

Apparently these so called hardcore criminals (Murders, druggy, etc) will swear at prisoner officers if they walked by or deliver food etc. When I mean swear, it means swear the living daylights out of your family etc etc. However it is said that on the day of execution these very criminals who swore at you will look up at you in the eye in tears with the message, "If given a chance, I would chose not to do it".

On the day of execution, the priest than recite prayers for the prisoner (a very short one), and ask for any last request. The prisoner is than offered a black cloth bag (whats it called ?) where he has the choice of placing it over his head while on the way to the gallows or after.

The prisoner is than escorted to the gallows where he will stand above the trap door. Apparently some prisoners couldn't walk and hence have to be dragged to the gallows.

There will be several officers + 1 doctor on site in a room with a glass panel facing the gallows to withness the execution.

Once again the prisoner has a choice of whether he wants to wear the black bag over him or not.

The noose is then placed around his neck where the executioner will pull the handle that releases the trap door.

About 99.999% of the time, as the prisoner falls through the trap door, he'll fall a considerable amount of height and it is that amount of force that snaps his neck. AKA instant death.

Why 99.999% ? Because in the entire history of execution, there was a fella who wasn't packed with much luck as the fall did not snap his neck. He struggled like mad for 15 mins before dying. Irregardless of how long the prisoner takes to die be it a mere 1 sec to 15 mins, the body is lefted hanging for a period of 1 hour where the officers will lower the body from below and release the noose from his neck. During the release of the noose, you can hear the body exhale its last breathe.

The doctor on site checks for pulse and confirm date and time of death where the body is placed in a black body bag and delivered to the rear of the execution block where family members if any, withness the collection of the body.

Apart from all prisoners, there was this dude whose name was Anthony Ler, he hired a 15 ? yr old kid to kill his wife (the kid stabbed her 7+ times?). Apparently that fella was smiling like a snob all the way to the gallows till he could no longer smile. Sadistic prick...

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Old 23-11-2005, 04:26 PM
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I think the Australian Government should take a leaf out of the Singaporean Governments book. I think our laws are way to soft, you can get away with anything these days. If they want to stop the crime and stuff make the laws tougher!

And for those tree hugging hippies who think that its all to inhumane!! well lets see if we put you in on island with all the crims and see what happens. maybe you will get a sense on life not that 'spaced out' dream world you life in!!! Have some common sense.
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Old 23-11-2005, 05:28 PM
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At the end of the day, the media will play the patriotic theme and the government will follow.

The guy is no different to any person passing through Singapore. So why be treated any different?
Everyone knows in Asia, drugs are not tolerated. Even if you're caught with 15g of hash, you're phucked! 15g!!

You know what pissses me off most?
Michelle bloody Lesley. Sure when you're in prison, you're all dressed up like you want to be a Muslim. But once you're released, phucked that. I'm going make a mockery of all that. And I might sell my story to the highest bidder. The the media that's offering her the $, you guys should be shot! Where are your phucking morals?!

leslie should be shot. shes spastic. and shes not even good looking. especially that fuggly jawline
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all i got to say is i totally agree with capital punishment, and the guy gets everything he deserves.
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Wouldn't 10 years in jail deter drug mules more than death? ... 10 years sitting around is far more painful than you either get off scott free and make money by muling or you get caught and check out.

Just my opinion. I think being caged is more punishment than a quick end.
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Old 23-11-2005, 05:55 PM
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yeah i agree with polarbear boy on that one ..... id rather die than go to jail

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